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Curve Casts

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Re: Curve Casts

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Post by Mangrove Cuckoo » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:57 pm

Graeme H wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:47 am

The combination of a chord length shortening in the horizontal plane (convex tip path if viewed from above) and a vertical loop plane produces a curved cast from that tail, in my case, towards the right.
Graeme

Thank you!

I kept trying to imagine a horizontal loop plane! It just was not computing!

I commonly use a pendulum cast from a horizontal rod to lessen the splash. I expect a curve can be created from a low rod this way too?
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Re: Curve Casts

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Post by Paul Arden » Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:08 pm

Hi Gary,

I don’t know if this helps...
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There is a vertical separation between the legs as well of course. In fact, apart from causing the tail, the other challenge is to avoid collisions between the legs of the loop or the line and the rod.

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Re: Curve Casts

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Post by Mangrove Cuckoo » Thu Feb 20, 2020 5:15 pm

Paul Arden wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:08 pm

There is a vertical separation between the legs as well of course. In fact, apart from causing the tail, the other challenge is to avoid collisions between the legs of the loop or the line and the rod.
Amen!

And things get even more challenging if the fly has some weight like in the salt!

The reason why most of my curves are from a vertical rod plane... but I would love to drop the rod lower to reduce visibility.
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Re: Curve Casts

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Post by Malik » Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:15 pm

Hi Paul
On your drawing 72 you stop the rod in this position | (bird eyes point of view). Try to make your stop with the rod in this / position (bird eyes point of view).
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Post by Paul Arden » Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:21 pm

Yes that’s an excellent point Malik. The rod position is incorrect in the diagram.

Like you Gary, I thought it was a dry fly only cast, but Malik told me he can turn Clousers around with this cast. He told me this yesterday and I haven’t had a chance to play with this yet. I suppose it depends highly on the weight of the fly compared to the weight of the line.

Normally I would overpower off the opposite shoulder to make the above presentation. But of course this isn’t always possible.

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Re: Curve Casts

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Post by Malik » Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:28 pm

Paul Arden wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:21 pm
Yes that’s an excellent point Malik. The rod position is incorrect in the diagram.

Like you Gary, I thought it was a dry fly only cast, but Malik told me he can turn Clousers around with this cast. He told me this yesterday and I haven’t had a chance to play with this yet. I suppose it depends highly on the weight of the fly compared to the weight of the line.

Normally I would overpower off the opposite shoulder to make the above presentation. But of course this isn’t always possible.

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Hi Paul,
Before to try it with a closer I highly recommend to practice with some fluff :D
But yes, it works with more heavy flies too !

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Re: Curve Casts

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Post by Paul Arden » Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:34 pm

:D :D yes that’s good advice!
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Re: Curve Casts

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Post by Malik » Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:42 am

Hi,
I don't have a lot of time right now, but searching in my Hudl collection, I found some videos that might help. I'll shoot new ones, more didactic, in a few months.
Here, a video of Jean-Pierre, a colleague and friend instructor, practicing a "standard" twist cast. Front view.

http://www.hudl.com/technique/video/vie ... e=20869198

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Re: Curve Casts

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Post by Bianchetti Ivan » Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:01 pm


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Re: Curve Casts

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Post by Boisker » Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:51 pm

Malik wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:42 am
Hi,
I don't have a lot of time right now, but searching in my Hudl collection, I found some videos that might help. I'll shoot new ones, more didactic, in a few months.
Here, a video of Jean-Pierre, a colleague and friend instructor, practicing a "standard" twist cast. Front view.

http://www.hudl.com/technique/video/vie ... e=20869198
That’s really helpful Mailik.... :)
it’s quite a subtle movement at the stop

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