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shaping the fly leg

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shaping the fly leg

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Post by Richard » Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:15 pm

Dear board,

I'm beginning to throw smaller sized loops when just using the rod hand. :pirate:

I am now trying to translate this result to the situation where I double haul. I must say, the front of the loop actually doesn't look that bad. But from time to time I get these oddly shaped fly legs (see the image attached). I guess 'a' is pretty ok, but the others are definitely lot.

I am not sure whether this helps, but in my training I have been focusing on making long, evenly accelerating hauls. I think this is going better and now I am trying to be more delicate with my rod movement (decreasing power and arc).

I would like to ask whether someone could please explain what causes the fly leg to move upward and perhaps even guestimate what I'm doing wrong :ninja:

Cheers,

Richard
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Re: shaping the fly leg

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Post by James9118 » Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:30 pm

D is where you've clipped the ground with the fly or leader (called ticking here), this causes wrinkles in the fly leg. In extreme cases such as your diagram the friction ignites the fly line leaving a smoking, charred mess :D :D :D

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Post by Richard » Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:36 pm

James9118 wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:30 pm
... In extreme cases such as your diagram the friction ignites the fly line leaving a smoking, charred mess :D :D :D
Cheers James... this also explains why my practice fly of pink egg yarn, turns black and shriveled after a session or two...

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Post by Paul Arden » Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:21 pm

Hi Richard,

b and c I don’t think are actually possible. So I can’t help :D

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Post by Lasse Karlsson » Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:05 pm

Actual video helps alot more than artistic drawings 🙂

Have a look at these two clips and see if you find a resemblance with some of your findings 🙂





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Ps. Paul is wrong as usual, he's just not paying attention, clearly those two can happen, they are right there 😂
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Post by Paul Arden » Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:41 pm

Ps. Paul is wrong as usual, he's just not paying attention, clearly those two can happen, they are right there 😂
:D :D

Where the hell is c? :p

I can make c happen by throwing a steeple cast followed by an aeriel wave.

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Re: shaping the fly leg

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Post by easterncaster » Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:50 pm

Ok, so the drawings depict back loops - given the reel's aspect. Based on that perhaps C happens during a fck'd up Snap... ? But that is guess work.

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Post by Lasse Karlsson » Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:52 pm

Paul Arden wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:41 pm
Ps. Paul is wrong as usual, he's just not paying attention, clearly those two can happen, they are right there 😂
:D :D

Where the hell is c? :p

I can make c happen by throwing a steeple cast followed by an aeriel wave.

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Post by Paul Arden » Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:19 am

So what’s b? Trajectories separated by more than 180 degrees and the end of the line flips up?

Richard, what sort of practise leader do you use?

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Re: shaping the fly leg

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Post by Bianchetti Ivan » Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:18 am

I could be wrong, it seems to me the result of two things together, early departure and short leader.

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