The left hand pulling the line.

[Bianchetti Ivan]

The left hand pulls the line, in the back cast, going forward, why does it have to come back if the rotation is to be done late in the forward cast, wouldn't it be enough to wait for the rod to get there?

[Lasse Karlsson]

You will be feeding line, instead of starting to move it, an that means slack

Cheers
Lasse

[Paul Arden]

It doesn’t mean slack, it means slide

[John Waters]

The most important aspect Ivan is the impact on correct body movement. The left hand position inhibits squaring up the shoulders too early in the stroke. That increases distance and decreases risk of injury to lower back.

John

[Bianchetti Ivan]

The most important aspect Ivan is the impact on correct body movement. The left hand position inhibits squaring up the shoulders too early in the stroke. That increases distance and decreases risk of injury to lower back.

John

Yes John, I was thinking about this, the attempt was to rotate the shoulders late, with the barrel, but perhaps it is precisely by bending the left arm that the problem mentioned by Lasse and Paul is solved, perhaps it is sufficient to have the elbow forward also of the left.

[Lasse Karlsson]

It doesn’t mean slack, it means slide

Try not moving your hauling hand from the straight position in front of you from your backcast, then wait to start haul until your rodhand gets there and starts rotating. You will get slack.

Slide would be moving the hands together while the line unrolls behind you, doing it after it has unrolled, causes slack.

You move your linehand to the strongest possible position for your haul while the line is unrolling right? Straight out in front of you would be the weakest.

Cheers
Lasse

[Paul Arden]

I often leave my hand in front of me and so this very thing. There is no slack. Of course if you wait until loop straight and then delay you will have slack. So I wouldn’t recommend that

Cheers, Paul

[Lasse Karlsson]

If you don't wait to almost loop straight, you waste alot of stroke length, and unless you're Frank, you will have a problem with a long carry, which is what we are talking about here, dancing on thin ice, not jumping on concrete....

Cheers
Lasse

[Paul Arden]

Of course but it’s not always about the longest cast. If it is about the longest cast then I agree! In fact I think the primary reason however for not leaving it out there is because that would mean starting the haul with a straight arm

For fast short-mid range shots, like I have here with my fishing, there usually isn’t enough line out to both shoot line and return the hauling hand. It’s possible to do both at the same time with some practise but I don’t see any advantage particularly because we release line before the haul has completed.

Indeed stopping people from returning the line hand can be very difficult!

Cheers, Paul