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Echo MPR double haul kit
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Re: Echo MPR double haul kit
Question. Why is it called “stopless?” I probably could find the reason deep in the board, but I’m being lazy.
Carol
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Re: Echo MPR double haul kit
Hi Carol,
“Stopless” is a way of differentiating the stop from the more conventional “abrupt stop”. Instead of stopping the rod with a squeeze when you would normally stop to form a loop, you keep rotating until the rod is pointing to the target. There is abrupt muscle contractions, just a release, like smoothly throwing a ball.
I teach essentially four “stops”. Hard/abrupt stop, pull-back (reverse torque), torque twist and “stopless”. Stopless really came about from 5WT distance, but it also makes great into-the-wind shots, tip down, on the water, high line speed.
Have a look at the comp distance video on this page https://www.sexyloops.com/flycast/compe ... ance-cast/
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“Stopless” is a way of differentiating the stop from the more conventional “abrupt stop”. Instead of stopping the rod with a squeeze when you would normally stop to form a loop, you keep rotating until the rod is pointing to the target. There is abrupt muscle contractions, just a release, like smoothly throwing a ball.
I teach essentially four “stops”. Hard/abrupt stop, pull-back (reverse torque), torque twist and “stopless”. Stopless really came about from 5WT distance, but it also makes great into-the-wind shots, tip down, on the water, high line speed.
Have a look at the comp distance video on this page https://www.sexyloops.com/flycast/compe ... ance-cast/
Cheers, Paul
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Re: Echo MPR double haul kit
Traditionally, people think others don't know how to end a movement, and thus teach something they call "stop" most because they think the rod is giant spring and works by loading it, and then stopping hard so the spring can unload and send the line of to the horizon
Stopless refers to just going straight through those points, often named 1, 1.30 or 2 o'clock while sending of the line at great velocity
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Lasse
Stopless refers to just going straight through those points, often named 1, 1.30 or 2 o'clock while sending of the line at great velocity
Cheers
Lasse
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Re: Echo MPR double haul kit
thank you!
Carol
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Re: Echo MPR double haul kit
Hi Carol,
What I would add about stopless is that you can generate a much higher velocity than simply trying to slam on the anchors with a more conventional stroke V. It's kind of like sprinting over a finish line, you can achieve a greater velocity if you go flat out through it rather than worrying about stopping abruptly an inch after it.
All the best
What I would add about stopless is that you can generate a much higher velocity than simply trying to slam on the anchors with a more conventional stroke V. It's kind of like sprinting over a finish line, you can achieve a greater velocity if you go flat out through it rather than worrying about stopping abruptly an inch after it.
All the best
Nick M
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Re: Echo MPR double haul kit
Based on this thread, I bought one of these lines (already had a yarn rod from TFO). Best $20 I’ve spent in a while. It dramatically magnifies hauling and tracking flaws. In particular it is unforgiving of even momentary tension loss. I found a number of areas to work on of which I’d been unaware.
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Re: Echo MPR double haul kit
Great casting @Nick M!
@Lasse is the double haul kit available separate from the rod?
Thank you, Andrew
@Lasse is the double haul kit available separate from the rod?
Thank you, Andrew
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Re: Echo MPR double haul kit
It's a great tool isn't it? I always have it set up so i can use it inside.George C wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 5:11 pm Based on this thread, I bought one of these lines (already had a yarn rod from TFO). Best $20 I’ve spent in a while. It dramatically magnifies hauling and tracking flaws. In particular it is unforgiving of even momentary tension loss. I found a number of areas to work on of which I’d been unaware.
Thanks! yes it's available separately.andrewparkeruk wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 12:30 am Great casting @Nick M!
@Lasse is the double haul kit available separate from the rod?
Thank you, Andrew
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Re: Echo MPR double haul kit
I could not find it on the BFCC site, where is it available from?
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John
Thanks,
John
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Re: Echo MPR double haul kit
Hi John
Any Echo dealer can get it, if they haven't already got it on stock.
Cheers
Lasse
Any Echo dealer can get it, if they haven't already got it on stock.
Cheers
Lasse
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