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release timing when spey cast shooting,long belly

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release timing when spey cast shooting,long belly

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Post by Davy Sun » Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:21 pm

Dear Masters

one of my friend (thmci) told me that in spey casting, when we shoot line, we'd better a little bit later release the line. but he didnt mention why and how. I had tried several time and it seems that he is right but I dont understand. when is the best timing? RSP1 or MCF? or the time that anchor leave water?
appreciated that if anybody could give me some hints. thank you la

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Re: release timing when spey cast shooting,long belly

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Post by Davy Sun » Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:23 pm

wow,need to make a suppliment
for long belly, longer than 50ft,he said longer and release later
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Post by ACW » Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:57 pm

Hopefully one of the technical casters will have an answer.
Having started speycasting in the days of 40yard DTs ,i just "let go " when it feels right!

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Re: release timing when spey cast shooting,long belly

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Post by Lasse Karlsson » Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:04 pm

Hi Davy

Releasing before RSP1, it becomes more important the bigger our stroke/arc is. If you want to get most out, and release later, you will need more overhang, and it becomes trickier to handle.

A friend of mine calls it cast and relax (release)

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Re: release timing when spey cast shooting,long belly

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Post by Davy Sun » Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:54 am

Lasse Karlsson wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:04 pm
Hi Davy

Releasing before RSP1, it becomes more important the bigger our stroke/arc is. If you want to get most out, and release later, you will need more overhang, and it becomes trickier to handle.

A friend of mine calls it cast and relax (release)

Cheers
Lasse
Hi Lasse, thanks for your reply, the question is "how later" and "how much overhang" do we need to release if we want go most out as you said?
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Re: release timing when spey cast shooting,long belly

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Post by Lasse Karlsson » Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:07 am

Hi Davy

Crap answer, it depends 😊
Personally, I want to get the most out by releasing before RSP1, easier to adjust to, and seems to be the winning combination when one looks at the top distance casters. And thats the cast and relax version.

If you want to release after RSP1, the line won't really shoot until after MCF, so you need enough overhang that the line pulled away from the casting direction is all runningline, and here it then depends on how big your counterflex is going to be etc.

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Re: release timing when spey cast shooting,long belly

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Post by Davy Sun » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:59 pm

overhang... yes, today i realized that it is another factor...
i am more and more puzzled about the release timing. :(
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Post by Morsie » Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:13 pm

How do you put a time on something that's a split second moment? Like the "release point" of the lift, its a feel thing (although we at least have a visual on that). Play around with early and late releases and see the consequences - its how I teach myself, which in turn becomes how you teach others.

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