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A Climbing Loop?

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Re: A Climbing Loop?

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Post by Dirk le Roux » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:33 pm

gordonjudd wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:13 pm
Since internal tension is a double ended force could it provide any net force on the line?

I seems to me that internal tension forces will cancel out all around the line so I don't see how that internal tension could help to support the loop end of the catenary formed in the rod leg.
Hi Gordy

I meant the effect of increased tension at the loop (which equal & opposites at the rod tip). If you hang cable with a flattish sag, increasing tension at the ends will lift the centre and reduce that sag.

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Re: A Climbing Loop?

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Post by Lasse Karlsson » Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:14 pm

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Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:46 am
Lasse - how far can you chuck a 20g weight single handed with your non-flyfishing outfit (I can't even bring myself to say it :D )
Just tried it, and without cheating (other hand helping with rotation) I maxed out in the late 40's (longest measured was 48) with a bit of help, 68 meter...
5 MED went 32+ without a haul and 40,6 with a haul...
Not sure I'll get much further, change of rod might help, but didn't get the feeling it was tackle more than driver incompetence 🤣
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Post by Lasse Karlsson » Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:38 pm



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Re: A Climbing Loop?

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Post by Paul Arden » Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:42 pm

Did you buy those shoes especially?
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Post by Lasse Karlsson » Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:48 pm

Paul Arden wrote:
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Did you buy those shoes especially?
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Post by Lasse Karlsson » Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:10 am



The comparable flyline singlehand cast.

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Re: A Climbing Loop?

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Post by Torsten » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:06 pm

Hi Lasse,
Not sure I'll get much further, change of rod might help, but didn't get the feeling it was tackle more than driver incompetence 🤣
I'm rather impressed that you're casting with this style that far :)

One of our club members has won yesterday the German Championship (ICSF discipline 7) with a cast of 108m - the world record is ~120m. We are using 18g plastic weights, 0.25mm mono and a shock leader, optimized gear like oversized guides, and special casting techniques pendulum style or even body rotations. In my opinion many spin fisherman overestimate their distance. OK maybe with ultra thin fireline and dense lead weights more distance is possible.

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Post by Lasse Karlsson » Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:07 pm

Hi Torsten

I fish that kind of gear, and as a distance geek, have measured 😉 give me two hands and my normal setup, and a 20 gram lure, and I know I'm looking at 100 in ok conditions. And thats without lengthening stroke with body rotation and pendulum, just normal stroke length.
Just goes to show that the casting sport diciplines have fallen quite back comparwd to real world fishing situations. I haven't used mono on the coast since early 90's...

Agree that most fishermen overestimate their abiities, doesn't matter what gear they use though 😂 getting out the old lie detector is always useful.

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Re: A Climbing Loop?

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Post by Torsten » Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:53 pm

Sure Lasse,

as I've written, with thin fireline and a dense lure I can imagine that. The ICSF game was restricted that it fits on sports field (you don't have often more than ~120m space); the 18g weight is basically floating. On the other hand I'm guessing that makes more sense to compare with a floating fly line. I'd say 80m is a good overhead cast with such gear.

In general, what was the intention of the experiment, what do we want to show?

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Post by Lasse Karlsson » Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:12 pm

Torsten wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:53 pm

In general, what was the intention of the experiment, what do we want to show?
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