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Lasse Karlsson wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 8:43 am

Paul Arden wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 6:08 am Maybe I would just enter the Danish Games event.

Cheers, Paul

You'll get beaten there, we know

Cheers
Lasse

VGB wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 7:40 am

John Waters wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 6:59 am That bloody double haul has ruined fly fishing, it's the fifth horseman of the apocalypse. As for tournament casters, I hope all their chickens turn into emus and kick their dunnies down.

That’s nearly a century since your last major added value

I don’t see a need to change the T38 and T120 events. This is entirely up to the guys who compete in these events. I have a few friends who love the T38 as it is. I think it’s great that these events exist.

Subject: Proposal from Japan Casting Sport Federation, about Changing fly lines for
competition.


In light of the fact that barstool has stopped supplying competition fly lines, we believe that the
time has come to change the way we think about competition fly lines. We believe that it is a
matter of survival of the sport of casting to adopt rules that will make fishing tackle
manufacturers more interested in the sport of casting.

We need to integrate the rules with fly casting rules to not only increase the casting population,
but also to attract participants from other types of fishing.

On the other hand, we also believe that it is practically impossible to change lines immediately.
We cannot abandon the lines we are already using. Then we think we should work on changing
the line with a buffer of several years.

At the same time, we think it is necessary to approach other line manufacturers besides
Airflow to see if it is possible to create a new line. If no manufacturer can be found during the
three-year transition period, we may switch, and if one can be found, we may leave it as it is.
However, this would be on a 120g line and we think it is desirable to reduce the weight of
single handed lines. Maybe make the 27g Sea Trout games from Fly Casting, or a little heavier
(30g?).

Competition fly lines are not required for accuracy competitions. We believe that a floating
line should be used for more and better visibility. If we were to specify it would be a 27g sea
trout fly line, but there are already several different types of line available for this.
For these reasons, it is proposed that competition fly lines for fly events should be…
=Fly Accuracy.
The choice of line shall be free. Any line shall be acceptable.
(or 27g floating line, with sea trout).
=Fly Single-handed Distance
-Change the weight of the line to 34g, while the choice of line, modification and repair shall
be free. (Metal core lines are not permitted)
=Fly Double-handed Distance
After 3 years, the weight of the line is to be changed. Weight to be negotiated.

Torsten wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 1:16 pm Our senior coach told me that he had to deal often with crying kids.

Torsten wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:03 am
You can't impress any fly fisher with a T38 line, Nils, they are rather scared - that was my impression, because I've demonstrated T38 casting for the Fario club in Berlin once. For them the rod is a broomstick and the line an unrealistic heavy leadcore trolling line. T

Torsten wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:03 am The proposal to use a grey line again is a joke right?

That means in summary, you don't support the japanese proposal (?)

Paul Arden wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 3:25 pm When I met the casters in Millom they had just been out to experience British fish and chips. A fine cuisine!!

Torsten wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 1:16 pm Hi John, Paul,

I don't know if I can follow you about the ego-thing; in my experience you can find all kinds of character traits among the competitors (like the rest of the society), it would surprise me otherwise. Not in all cases they get along well, I remember a case, one woman of the national team had to be banned because of her behaviour. And I can understand if not all people like to compete or fear competitions. Almost anybody I know is disappointed of they score not well, it's then the job of the coach to build them up and motivate them again. Our senior coach told me that he had to deal often with crying kids.

But back to topic,

I don’t see a need to change the T38 and T120 events. This is entirely up to the guys who compete in these events. I have a few friends who love the T38 as it is. I think it’s great that these events exist.

That means in summary, you don't support the japanese proposal (?)

Greetings,
Torsten

Subject: Proposal from Japan Casting Sport Federation, about Changing fly lines for
competition.


In light of the fact that barstool has stopped supplying competition fly lines, we believe that the
time has come to change the way we think about competition fly lines. We believe that it is a
matter of survival of the sport of casting to adopt rules that will make fishing tackle
manufacturers more interested in the sport of casting.

We need to integrate the rules with fly casting rules to not only increase the casting population,
but also to attract participants from other types of fishing.

On the other hand, we also believe that it is practically impossible to change lines immediately.
We cannot abandon the lines we are already using. Then we think we should work on changing
the line with a buffer of several years.

At the same time, we think it is necessary to approach other line manufacturers besides
Airflow to see if it is possible to create a new line. If no manufacturer can be found during the
three-year transition period, we may switch, and if one can be found, we may leave it as it is.
However, this would be on a 120g line and we think it is desirable to reduce the weight of
single handed lines. Maybe make the 27g Sea Trout games from Fly Casting, or a little heavier
(30g?).

Competition fly lines are not required for accuracy competitions. We believe that a floating
line should be used for more and better visibility. If we were to specify it would be a 27g sea
trout fly line, but there are already several different types of line available for this.
For these reasons, it is proposed that competition fly lines for fly events should be…
=Fly Accuracy.
The choice of line shall be free. Any line shall be acceptable.
(or 27g floating line, with sea trout).
=Fly Single-handed Distance
-Change the weight of the line to 34g, while the choice of line, modification and repair shall
be free. (Metal core lines are not permitted)
=Fly Double-handed Distance
After 3 years, the weight of the line is to be changed. Weight to be negotiated.

Paul Arden wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 5:51 am If the line is 34g and density is not specified then everyone will use the most dense lines available (which are dark grey).

I’m surprised by the challenges in buying 38g lines. Surely if you commit to buying a large enough quantity, then any manufacturer who can make them will make them.

Cheers, Paul