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Teaching concepts revisited

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That drill element is very important. If you simply cast with someone by moving their hands around or whatever process you use, then you haven’t set any drills.

I normally set somewhere between 5 and 8 drills per lesson. It’s our toolbox. What I really enjoy is those times we get to create a new tool, for a specific problem or limitation, set it and see what comes back next time. I think that’s my favourite part of coaching. It’s a bit like fishing :D

Right must edit the video that I’ve been meaning to edit since Saturday.

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Paul Arden wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 3:59 am Self-discovery, facilitated by us, is the environment I would like to create.
Hi Paul,
self discovery of what?
Grip?
Stance?
Timing?
Everything or just a few particular keys?
What exactly you mean?
I am sure you ll answer most questions students ask in a zoom short lesson, no?
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Movement within constraints.
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Whatever that is... ☺️
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For me it means changing the tasks so that they develop a range of movement patterns. I want them to explore movement for themselves through experimenting with the variable drills and exercises that I set. Eg loop control exercises. Loops narrow to wide to narrow, starting with a short length of line and gradually increasing to long. All planes starting with short line and increasing to long. Both of these exercises I include in a beginner’s lesson. I want them to explore movement for themselves instead of being dictated to.

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Bernd, it means setting constraints such that it leads to a better solution that they currently have, even better if they discover it themselves. Do you recall the events that made discoveries memorable? ;) These constraints can be environmental, task or individual and the instructor needs to, it needs the instructor to put these boundaries in place, a bit like the buffers in a 10 pin bowling alley for kids.

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I dont like teaching beginners to move into a long line. Too often I saw compensation then being hammered in as soon as I wasnt there.
I prefer to start with proper control of a short to max medium length until they feel to be ready for more.
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It’s all relative. In this case long is about 30’.
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Ok, 30' isn't what I call long. Lengthening the line to 30', shortening and lengthening again to 30' and so on, is tricky for beginners. Very little line weight outside the tip on 15'... Therefore I prefer some control over 30' first, then lengthening and getting quickly the right feel of the line pulling out.
There are many ways though...
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Phew. Definitely I disagree there. I start them with about 6’ of flyline in the horizontal plane. I like Graeme’s waves method initially.
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