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Teaching concepts revisited
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Re: Teaching concepts revisited
That drill element is very important. If you simply cast with someone by moving their hands around or whatever process you use, then you haven’t set any drills.
I normally set somewhere between 5 and 8 drills per lesson. It’s our toolbox. What I really enjoy is those times we get to create a new tool, for a specific problem or limitation, set it and see what comes back next time. I think that’s my favourite part of coaching. It’s a bit like fishing
Right must edit the video that I’ve been meaning to edit since Saturday.
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I normally set somewhere between 5 and 8 drills per lesson. It’s our toolbox. What I really enjoy is those times we get to create a new tool, for a specific problem or limitation, set it and see what comes back next time. I think that’s my favourite part of coaching. It’s a bit like fishing
Right must edit the video that I’ve been meaning to edit since Saturday.
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Hi Paul,Paul Arden wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 3:59 am Self-discovery, facilitated by us, is the environment I would like to create.
self discovery of what?
Grip?
Stance?
Timing?
Everything or just a few particular keys?
What exactly you mean?
I am sure you ll answer most questions students ask in a zoom short lesson, no?
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Movement within constraints.
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Whatever that is...
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For me it means changing the tasks so that they develop a range of movement patterns. I want them to explore movement for themselves through experimenting with the variable drills and exercises that I set. Eg loop control exercises. Loops narrow to wide to narrow, starting with a short length of line and gradually increasing to long. All planes starting with short line and increasing to long. Both of these exercises I include in a beginner’s lesson. I want them to explore movement for themselves instead of being dictated to.
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Re: Teaching concepts revisited
Bernd, it means setting constraints such that it leads to a better solution that they currently have, even better if they discover it themselves. Do you recall the events that made discoveries memorable? These constraints can be environmental, task or individual and the instructor needs to, it needs the instructor to put these boundaries in place, a bit like the buffers in a 10 pin bowling alley for kids.
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I dont like teaching beginners to move into a long line. Too often I saw compensation then being hammered in as soon as I wasnt there.
I prefer to start with proper control of a short to max medium length until they feel to be ready for more.
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I prefer to start with proper control of a short to max medium length until they feel to be ready for more.
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It’s all relative. In this case long is about 30’.
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Ok, 30' isn't what I call long. Lengthening the line to 30', shortening and lengthening again to 30' and so on, is tricky for beginners. Very little line weight outside the tip on 15'... Therefore I prefer some control over 30' first, then lengthening and getting quickly the right feel of the line pulling out.
There are many ways though...
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There are many ways though...
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Phew. Definitely I disagree there. I start them with about 6’ of flyline in the horizontal plane. I like Graeme’s waves method initially.